i have made a new friend , carlos from wisc. he told me of his plan to have a golf outing in wisc with tt members. i emailed him and said, why don't we have a ryder cup match with people from wisc and the chicago area. we can call our teams the tt packers and the tt bears teams.  maybe we can get a list of all tt members in our areas and email them to see who wants to join these teams. we'll vote on a course that is central for all chicago area tt members to practice on so we can find the best from our area to play in the ryder cup and during the year we can help each other with their game to help improve our games. maybe the tt site at the glen club with their practice range might be a good place to start. we can checkout new clubs,and balls and see what works best for us. its oct so we got a lot of time to do this. titleist can have a both at the golf shows in these areas to promote these matches and help sign up people for both team titleist amd our teams.  if you think about it, i think having programs like this will keep the courses full and people playing golf and helping get more people to play golf. i hope all will respond to this email with their opinions.