Hi Titleist friends, I just want to share my experience changing from the AP1 712 (standard lie, stiff True Temper Dynalite Gold XP 1/4 inch shorter) to the brand new AP2 714 (1 degree up lie, stiff True Temper XP 95 standard lenght -yes, the ones that comes with the AP1--want to thank to Michael Singleton the PGA Pro in the Lone Star Golf Club in El Paso, TX for the fitting,great course and friends!-), the "feel" of the forged heads it's undescriptible great!, and I want to share too that in my opinion (I am just 14 HDCP) that the changes on the long irons its absolutely true,this year I was struggling with my 4 hybrid (because I´v order my last set without the 4 iron), well let me tell you guys that I can now hit my 4 iron (AP2 714) almost but more precisely as far as than my 4 hybrid. Once again grrrrreattt clubs!!!!!