Geo,

The 21 degree 910H hybrid = 3 iron loft of 21 degrees, 24 degree 910H hybrid = 4 iron 

Loft of 24 degrees, so you would actually need a new 27 degree 910H hybrid = 5 iron at

27 degrees.  Given your distances, your implied swing speed is slow enough that I think you'd

Really benefit from a third hybrid (the 27 degree 910H)... Lose the 5 iron.  One suggestion:

Recommend all your hybrids be shorter than Titleist standard hybrid lengths, and instead be what 

The normal iron lengths are at that particular loft.  Net, your new 27 910H hybrid should be only 

One half inch longer than your 6 iron is in length.... Not the inch or so more in length you'll get if you order

Titleist's standard hybrid lengths.  I would then swap out the weight in back of hybrid with a slightly heavier one

In order to compensate for going shorter, and maintain swing weight you want to hit.  Also, AP1 irons will be easier 

To hit than AP2s if you want to really spend some more money.  The slightly shorter hybrid length will make these 

3 hybrid (21 degree), 4 hybrid (24 degree), and 5 hybrid (27 degree) easier to hit the sweet spot regularly, which in my 

Opinion, will give you more length on your shot than you'll gain fro playing the longer shaft length Titleist standard hybrid

Lengths.  Hope this helps Geo!  Don't want you mistakingly using a 24 degree hybrid to gap fill for a 27 degree five iron!

Well, you've already ordered the 21.  The AP2 5I is 27, and they have a 910H for that.  Fortunately, you can step the 24 back to 25.5 and choke down until you get the 175.  Which will also allow you to adjust the 21 to 21.75 to get a little gap from your 19.  Before buying the 21, had you set the 24 to 23.25?  Back to your original question, besides carry, you can also decide if the 24 improves landing distance and accuracy.  All factors to consider in replacing the 5I.  If it gives you game... 

First - thanks for the replies.  I hear what you're saying about hybrid lofts and iron equivalents, but I guess I phrased the topic heading wrong.  And as far as the AP1, yes they offer better forgiveness, but I hit the 6-PW of my AP2's well, it's really just the 5 iron that I'm in a funk with.

There are two 200 yard par 3's on my home course that each weekend, I'm just shy of reaching with my 910H 24*, playing at 23.25*.  If I go to my 19*, I'm over the green.  I used to have a 21* 7 wood that was perfect for this shot, but that's been passed on.  So I ordered the 21* specifically for these two shots each week. 

I contemplated selling my 24, but then I started thinking, maybe I should play it at either 24.75 or maybe even 25.5 and drop my 5 iron from the bag.  After an early Spring of hitting my 5 iron well, I've found myself overswinging the 5 iron lately, resulting in bad contact (fat shots) and while the ball is going where I'm aiming, it's not going much farther than my 6 iron.  Since I already own the 24*, my thought is if I swing smoothly and let the club perform as designed, it might be the solution I'm seeking. 

I'm going to find out this weekend, as the 21* is due in Friday, and I think I'll give my experiment a go.  Worse case, I go back to a  5 iron that I know I can hit where I'm aiming, just maybe not as far as I'd like.  It really boils down to weekend warrior syndrome; playing only on Sunday this year, the swing is not where I expect it to be.

I'm sure Don will agree with me...... you should have kept your 7 wood (I personally hit one just as far as a 19H); it is very workable.  A setup of driver-17-21 woods, 24-27 hybrids, 6-PW and your 3 vokeys would be a lot more effective.   You would have more opportunites on the par 5s with the 17 vs a 15* 3 wood, given your lie has to be pretty plush to hit the latter off the deck.   You could have also choked down on the 19 to shave some yards.

I still have my 7 wood as a backup to the 5 wood and 21H. 

Lou,

Some good points, but I hit that 910H 19* pretty darn good, at least as far as my old r7 5 wood, and its a great club out of the rough.  The 7 wood, while a solid club, was no match for some of the gnarly rough at the home course.  I could get it back any time I want, but the versatility of the hybrids is much more appealing to me.  As for the 15* vs 17* FW thought, different horses for different courses.  I do know, when I had the chance to play an Fd 15, F 15 and F 17, the F 15 was easily the longest, and really no more difficult to elevate than the 17.  I loved that Fd off the tee, but I didn't have the club head speed to hit it consistently much more than 220 yards from the deck.  The plain old 910F 15* is closer to 235.

While I of course hope to get it lower, my GHIN is firmly entrenched in between 7 & 8.  I think this experiment could be help me shave a couple of strokes per round and get me back under a 5.

Thanks for the input.

George

Some time ago I had a 980F 3 wood and actually found it pretty easy to hit on the fairway (couldn't do that with an R7 5 wood).  If that 19 is your go to club, think about things like choking down on it to shave distance. 

I played a 975F 16.5 and 20.5 for 3 years but the distance wasn't the greatest (my Superfast 5W hits just as far as the 16.5 did) but they were deadly accurate.

I played a Burner 7W for the past year and a half and there may have been about 5 yards difference between it and a 5W but I loved it because I could swing away with it (I hit it 225 one time but generally I hit it about 185).   I hit the Superfast 5W about 190-200.

Speaking of experiments..... I picked up an SM4 60-10 yesterday (bent it to 59-09).   It actually stops the ball better than my SM3 62-07.  Works in bunkers and so on.   I traded the 58-04 and 62-07 (plus a fairway wood) and some cash for an SM3 54-14 (that I had bent to 53-13) today (main reason I chose the SM3 vs the SM4 is the flange is a bit narrower; the results so far are good - hit some long and middle length bunker shots in soft sand, did some chipping and pitching off tight lies and soft lies).  I still have my 50-08 and 54-11 but my goal is to back to a 3 wedge setup (not worried about distance gaps since I don't do many full swing shots with anything less than a PW and I am pretty adept at distance control). 

an update after today's nine holes -

I was playing with the coach of a local high school team, and I concentrated on making a nice full turn during the backswing.  VOILA, as the magicians say, 5 iron was flying over 170 again, the 24* hybrid was carrying 195.  I know its only one nine on the course, but it has me feeling better.  Proof lies in if I can repeat this the next few times out.

Now, not sure what to do about that 910H 21* coming in.  I'll probably keep it, but the 3 hybrid idea might not be a lock.

At the distances you were reporting, it's a little unusual to 'have to' use a 5 hybrid, but there's nothing wrong with liking to use one.  There's been some articles by one writer at Golf/Golf Digest that keeps all hybrids down through 7H, maybe even a 9H.  After you get the 21, you can try the 24 H dialed back to 25.5 and compare holding a green for a 170 yard par 3 with the 5I.  Since you've got the club, maybe it will grow on you.  You won't get much more than 25% for trade-in, anyway.  Or, depending on the course, you can swap these if you have some tight greens and the H holds better.

There's a custom club outlet (Pinemeadow Golf) that has a line of hybrids (Excel Strong) that goes from a 3H down to a PWH. I used their 6 and 7 hybrids on and off between 2009-2010 and they actually worked better than a G10 at less than half the price.  In my reserve bag I have a persimmon 10 wood and 34* hybrid from Louisville Golf (birthday and Father's Day presents in 2010) and I have actually played some of my best golf with those two clubs (10 pars in 13 holes on an exec course and also shot a 42 at Riverwalk Mission with these, a 980F 3 wood and a Louisville persimmon 5 wood).  

Don,

You're right about the distances, I don't find I use a 5 iron that often, and that could be some of the reason why I struggle with it (I don't practice with it).  And, as you've pointed out, since I have the 24H already, I plan to add a little loft and try that instead of the 5 iron.  While it took a little time for me to get used to these 910H hybrids, I'm finding them so easy to hit, and when I'm in the rough, I can still put a good swing and get some distance with them.  And yes, depending upon the course, I do plan on swapping the 5 iron in and out for a hybrid.

Thanks

Don O's idea of setting the 24H to 25.5 is good.  From what I have read throughout TT and on the site, increasing loft will promote a draw so keep that in mind when setting up to the ball.

But if you ever get a chance to acquire the 910H 27* club, do it.   26-28 hybrids are probably about the 2nd greatest things since sliced bread (next to a 7 wood, of course).  I've been so spoiled on these types of hybrids or a lofted wood since 2006 and will never go back to using anything above a 7 iron again. 

The AP2 6 iron has a 31* loft.     How far do you hit your 24* hybrid?   (my guess would be somewhere in the vicinity of about 185).  There is going to be a gap but not insurmountable if you choke down on the hybrid (1/2" shaves 10 yards).

The 5 iron equivalent is 27*. 

Nothing wrong with a lot of headcovers. 

Keep in mind that you are going to get varied responses. 

My bag is a mix of TM and Titleist.    Burner HT draw (13*), Superfast 5/18 fairway, Superlaunch 4/21H and 6/27H, AP1 7-PW, Vokey SM3 (50-08 bent to 51, 54-11 bent to 55, 58-04 and 62-07).   I drive 220-240.  5W is 190-200, 4H is 175-180, 6H is 165, 7 iron is 150 down to 115 for PW.