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By Rick D

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  1. I was recently fit,outdoors, for a set of 712 ap1's by an established fitter. first set of irons actually custom fit outdoors.anyway very thorough, hit irons with different lengths and lies.in the end it was reccomended i go +1/2 length, and 2 degrees up.i did hit these specs better,but just never thought i would need a longer more upright iron being my height at 5-71/2.does this sound too far fetched?thanks

  2. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Rick D said:

    I was recently fit,outdoors, for a set of 712 ap1's by an established fitter. first set of irons actually custom fit outdoors.anyway very thorough, hit irons with different lengths and lies.in the end it was reccomended i go +1/2 length, and 2 degrees up.i did hit these specs better,but just never thought i would need a longer more upright iron being my height at 5-71/2.does this sound too far fetched?thanks

    What is your wrist to floor height?   My dad is 6'2" and I am 6'1".   He uses a flatter lie than I do because his arms are 2" longer than mine.   I'm a degree more upright than he is.

    I have a 35" sleeve length on my shirts.

    Also, do you swing standing straight with little knee flex?   I have a little bit more knee flex than most do.

  3. wrist to floor is 331/2. i stand more upright with little knee flex.

  4. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Rick D said:

    wrist to floor is 331/2. i stand more upright with little knee flex.

    This is highly unusual because 33 1/2" WTF, 5'7" translates to Black -.25", which would be a degree flat on Titleist (Blue is the same as Titleist standard). 

    From your description, you are almost standing vertical at address but use a rather horizontal swing, approaching that of a baseball swing.

  5. Lou G said:

    This is highly unusual because 33 1/2" WTF, 5'7" translates to Black -.25", which would be a degree flat on Titleist (Blue is the same as Titleist standard). 

    From your description, you are almost standing vertical at address but use a rather horizontal swing, approaching that of a baseball swing.

    [/quote] that is what the fitter said,that i have a very flat swing plane

  6. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Rick D said:

    This is highly unusual because 33 1/2" WTF, 5'7" translates to Black -.25", which would be a degree flat on Titleist (Blue is the same as Titleist standard). 

    From your description, you are almost standing vertical at address but use a rather horizontal swing, approaching that of a baseball swing.

    [/quote] that is what the fitter said,that i have a very flat swing plane

    [/quote]

    My WTF is 35.5" and I'm 6'1"   My basic specs are 35" club - 65* lie angle (lob wedges), 36" club - 64* lie angle (9 iron), 37" club - 63* lie angle (7 iron).   My driver is 44.5" 58.5* lie angle.   I had Ping Eye 2 irons before and they started out at green dot (2.25*  upright per Ping) and I had to choke down halfway to hit them properly; they ended up at blue dot . I have a pretty upright swing.

     

  7. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    What I'm also guessing is that your arms are almost tucked into your upper torso.  

    To give you a description of my stance, I can touch the tops of my kneecaps with my fingertips (shoulders and knees in line) and my hands and nose line up when I address the ball.  I have a pretty athletic stance and flex my knees a bit more than a lot do.  My arms also extend out slightly (but I'm not reaching for the ball either; the club grounds nicely).  My static fit (according to the Ping website) is Yellow Dot (+1.5* which translates to a 9 iron with a 65.5* lie angle) and my dynamic fit is Blue Dot (61.5* 5 iron and 64.5* 9 iron; Titleist is 62* 5 iron and 64* 9 iron).  The issue with Eye 2 irons was the spacing (.75* between clubs - a Yellow Dot 5 iron is only .25* different vs Titleist standard lie but the 9 iron was 1.5* more upright).  Titleist standard lie and length for AP1 = center of lie angle tape.  

  8. Was the fitter a Certified Titleist fitter or an Advanced Titleist fitter?

  9. certified, been a fitter for 25+ years.

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