Well it took 50 years, but now that I know how to do it, I plan on getting one more often. Hit a sweet pitching wedge 110 yards to the front left of the green and it bounced a couple times and released to the right downhill and I saw it disappear. Good thing it hit the hole, would of probably rolled down about 15 more feet. High fived with Dick, got attacked and hugged by Peggy and Rey was hitting me on the back. It was not worth the wait, but was a real sweet feeling. The pro V1 is the only ball to use.